Comments for http://projectfreethought.org projectfreethought.org - Thu, 29 Dec 2011 05:37:07 -0600 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 Comment on an open letter to blake ewing. by jyl http://projectfreethought.org/2011/12/an-open-letter-to-blake-ewing-from/#comment-109 jyl Thu, 29 Dec 2011 05:37:07 +0000 http://projectfreethought.org/?p=250#comment-109 I guess I'm not as "hipster" as I thought...I just didn't find Blake's letter to be offensive...I actually liked it. It made me WANT to go to the MAX...maybe I should ditch my hillcrest area ghetto house and move south ... yeah, riiiiiiiiight. In all fairness to both sides, though, I got peeved at Blake on a FB discussion thread, which got rather heated, then Blake explained that his humor hadn't translated well, and since that has happened to me PLENTY of times, and I really wanted to know whether or not he was really an a-hole or just like he said, "misinterpreted," I met with him for a face to face "no holds barred" discussion. I spent 3 hours grilling him, and trust me, I can be a real bitch, but I found him to be authentic and generally a good guy with the desire to see good things happen here. I felt that his intentions are more than just about HIS success, but about generating success in the lower income community. I think he will use his power and money for good, especially if people are willing to support his efforts. I could go on, but I'm not campaigning, I just wanted to share my personal experience. With that said, I'll just add that the ornery side of me enjoyed this whole sassy response, and bitchy comment section, mostly since it wasn't aimed at me, and even though I don't wholeheartedly share your contempt for Blake, I do love that you had the balls to confront him. Kudos! I guess I’m not as “hipster” as I thought…I just didn’t find Blake’s letter to be offensive…I actually liked it. It made me WANT to go to the MAX…maybe I should ditch my hillcrest area ghetto house and move south … yeah, riiiiiiiiight.

In all fairness to both sides, though, I got peeved at Blake on a FB discussion thread, which got rather heated, then Blake explained that his humor hadn’t translated well, and since that has happened to me PLENTY of times, and I really wanted to know whether or not he was really an a-hole or just like he said, “misinterpreted,” I met with him for a face to face “no holds barred” discussion. I spent 3 hours grilling him, and trust me, I can be a real bitch, but I found him to be authentic and generally a good guy with the desire to see good things happen here. I felt that his intentions are more than just about HIS success, but about generating success in the lower income community. I think he will use his power and money for good, especially if people are willing to support his efforts. I could go on, but I’m not campaigning, I just wanted to share my personal experience.
With that said, I’ll just add that the ornery side of me enjoyed this whole sassy response, and bitchy comment section, mostly since it wasn’t aimed at me, and even though I don’t wholeheartedly share your contempt for Blake, I do love that you had the balls to confront him. Kudos!

]]> Comment on an open letter to blake ewing. by jyl http://projectfreethought.org/2011/12/an-open-letter-to-blake-ewing-from/#comment-105 jyl Tue, 27 Dec 2011 10:11:30 +0000 http://projectfreethought.org/?p=250#comment-105 I'M jealous of Steve's success...is that bad? I’M jealous of Steve’s success…is that bad?

]]> Comment on an open letter to blake ewing. by Bungholehomomuncher http://projectfreethought.org/2011/12/an-open-letter-to-blake-ewing-from/#comment-104 Bungholehomomuncher Mon, 26 Dec 2011 07:20:04 +0000 http://projectfreethought.org/?p=250#comment-104 I thought The Max was a gay bar. I thought The Max was a gay bar.

]]> Comment on christmas charade by » generation-Y: finding a voice http://projectfreethought.org/2011/12/christmas-charade/#comment-92 » generation-Y: finding a voice Tue, 20 Dec 2011 02:50:16 +0000 http://projectfreethought.org/?p=355#comment-92 [...] week I wrote about Senator Inhofe as did many others across the state. He currently holds the First Congressional Districts Federal [...] [...] week I wrote about Senator Inhofe as did many others across the state. He currently holds the First Congressional Districts Federal [...]

]]> Comment on Tulsa is a drama by D http://projectfreethought.org/2011/12/tulsa-i-love-you/#comment-79 D Fri, 16 Dec 2011 21:49:55 +0000 http://projectfreethought.org/?p=294#comment-79 Hey,Really liked the I Heart Tulsa picture! Hey,Really liked the I Heart Tulsa picture!

]]> Comment on an open letter to blake ewing. by J Mechelle http://projectfreethought.org/2011/12/an-open-letter-to-blake-ewing-from/#comment-74 J Mechelle Tue, 13 Dec 2011 20:12:13 +0000 http://projectfreethought.org/?p=250#comment-74 snore snore

]]> Comment on The Reason for the Season by » Christmas Charade http://projectfreethought.org/2009/12/the-reason-for-the-season/#comment-71 » Christmas Charade Mon, 12 Dec 2011 20:47:29 +0000 http://projectfreethought.org/?p=38#comment-71 [...] the dead and returned to Aaru (Egyptian heaven) to judge the masses for their sins.  There are many more, but I don’t want to bore you with a history lesson. Suffice it to say, December 25th has been [...] [...] the dead and returned to Aaru (Egyptian heaven) to judge the masses for their sins.  There are many more, but I don’t want to bore you with a history lesson. Suffice it to say, December 25th has been [...]

]]> Comment on Tulsa is a drama by Ashley http://projectfreethought.org/2011/12/tulsa-i-love-you/#comment-66 Ashley Sat, 10 Dec 2011 03:47:39 +0000 http://projectfreethought.org/?p=294#comment-66 Hey, I took that picture! :P Hey, I took that picture! :P

]]> Comment on Tulsa is a drama by admin http://projectfreethought.org/2011/12/tulsa-i-love-you/#comment-64 admin Fri, 09 Dec 2011 05:52:31 +0000 http://projectfreethought.org/?p=294#comment-64 Go for it man. I forgot I had it. Should have been the header photo to this post. Go for it man. I forgot I had it. Should have been the header photo to this post.

]]> Comment on Tulsa is a drama by Steve Cluck http://projectfreethought.org/2011/12/tulsa-i-love-you/#comment-63 Steve Cluck Fri, 09 Dec 2011 05:25:13 +0000 http://projectfreethought.org/?p=294#comment-63 Cool "I Heart Tulsa" mug photo on the sidebar of your blog, BTW. Mind if I re-post it on my Facebook? Cool “I Heart Tulsa” mug photo on the sidebar of your blog, BTW. Mind if I re-post it on my Facebook?

]]> Comment on an open letter to blake ewing. by Steve Cluck http://projectfreethought.org/2011/12/an-open-letter-to-blake-ewing-from/#comment-62 Steve Cluck Thu, 08 Dec 2011 21:44:55 +0000 http://projectfreethought.org/?p=250#comment-62 Thanks, Ian. Thanks, Ian.

]]> Comment on an open letter to blake ewing. by Steve Cluck http://projectfreethought.org/2011/12/an-open-letter-to-blake-ewing-from/#comment-61 Steve Cluck Thu, 08 Dec 2011 21:23:18 +0000 http://projectfreethought.org/?p=250#comment-61 Thanks, Ashley. Good to get a clarification about the current T-shirt printing place. I will have to try those cheese fries next time I am at Stillwater's Jumpin' Little Juke Joint. Thanks, Ashley. Good to get a clarification about the current T-shirt printing place. I will have to try those cheese fries next time I am at Stillwater’s Jumpin’ Little Juke Joint.

]]> Comment on Tulsa is a drama by Android Phones http://projectfreethought.org/2011/12/tulsa-i-love-you/#comment-60 Android Phones Thu, 08 Dec 2011 21:22:14 +0000 http://projectfreethought.org/?p=294#comment-60 It's so lucky for me to find your blog! So great! Just one suggestion: It will be better and easier to follow if your blog can offer rrs subscription service. <a href="http://androidphone7.livejournal.com/" / rel="nofollow">Android Phones</a> It’s so lucky for me to find your blog! So great! Just one suggestion: It will be better and easier to follow if your blog can offer rrs subscription service.
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]]> Comment on an open letter to blake ewing. by Pandy http://projectfreethought.org/2011/12/an-open-letter-to-blake-ewing-from/#comment-59 Pandy Thu, 08 Dec 2011 17:40:39 +0000 http://projectfreethought.org/?p=250#comment-59 I stopped patronizing Ewing establishments WAY before it was cool. I'm so hip. ster I stopped patronizing Ewing establishments WAY before it was cool. I’m so hip. ster

]]> Comment on Tulsa is a drama by Jon A. http://projectfreethought.org/2011/12/tulsa-i-love-you/#comment-58 Jon A. Thu, 08 Dec 2011 16:26:32 +0000 http://projectfreethought.org/?p=294#comment-58 I've only read your last two articles but I found them to be interesting and articulate. I'll be a subscriber. I’ve only read your last two articles but I found them to be interesting and articulate. I’ll be a subscriber.

]]> Comment on an open letter to blake ewing. by derek dyson http://projectfreethought.org/2011/12/an-open-letter-to-blake-ewing-from/#comment-65 derek dyson Thu, 08 Dec 2011 09:39:45 +0000 http://projectfreethought.org/?p=250#comment-65 For the record, I'm probably too old to be a full-on hipster and we don't really know each other, but I definitely know my way around an engine. I rebuilt my VW rabbit from the ground up, including its 1.6l diesel rattler. I haven't punched anyone since high school and I'd never fight in a war so I definitely miss the mark on those aspects of greaser-dom. I was actually using the "outsiders" reference to highlight the social divide and it seemed relevant because of its obvious historic ties in Tulsa culture. As for the other jabs, a fair percentage of my friends have a college education and hold pretty decent jobs, and the ones that don’t seem pretty ok with it. I’ve personally been a homeowner in the Pearl District since ’01 and have a respectable career working for the School District. That said, I’ve got tattoos, own a few v-necks and have definitely pulled my far share of espresso shots, throughout my college years and beyond. A fact that I am actually very proud of considering that I played an active roll in developing a coffee culture in this city that has put Tulsa on the map in the best of specialty coffee circles. I wouldn’t be caught dead in a starbucks though. Again, I’ll say that I’m by no means the hippest of the hip for multiple reasons, but I am definitely a downtown kid that is passionate about this city. After Blakes ad started popping up on newsfeeds, being universally despised by everyone I knew, I thought a reply was in order. Originally meant for my friends, I threw something together for those who I knew felt the same way I did. As expected they applauded it as did many others in similar groups around the city that I have little to no ties with. Obviously, no one nominated me as a spokesperson, but that’s irrelevant when considering how broad the range of people Blake and his letter potentially offended. Either way I stand behind my sentiments whole-heartedly. It wasn’t the best piece I’ve ever written by any means and was a bit mean spirited, but considering the people he has wronged in the past and the ones that just despise the way he does things, I feel justified in it’s tone. I just said publicly what we’ve all been saying in dimly lit bars and smoke holes for a long time running. - derek For the record, I’m probably too old to be a full-on hipster and we don’t really know each other, but I definitely know my way around an engine. I rebuilt my VW rabbit from the ground up, including its 1.6l diesel rattler. I haven’t punched anyone since high school and I’d never fight in a war so I definitely miss the mark on those aspects of greaser-dom. I was actually using the “outsiders” reference to highlight the social divide and it seemed relevant because of its obvious historic ties in Tulsa culture.

As for the other jabs, a fair percentage of my friends have a college education and hold pretty decent jobs, and the ones that don’t seem pretty ok with it. I’ve personally been a homeowner in the Pearl District since ’01 and have a respectable career working for the School District. That said, I’ve got tattoos, own a few v-necks and have definitely pulled my far share of espresso shots, throughout my college years and beyond. A fact that I am actually very proud of considering that I played an active roll in developing a coffee culture in this city that has put Tulsa on the map in the best of specialty coffee circles. I wouldn’t be caught dead in a starbucks though.

Again, I’ll say that I’m by no means the hippest of the hip for multiple reasons, but I am definitely a downtown kid that is passionate about this city. After Blakes ad started popping up on newsfeeds, being universally despised by everyone I knew, I thought a reply was in order. Originally meant for my friends, I threw something together for those who I knew felt the same way I did. As expected they applauded it as did many others in similar groups around the city that I have little to no ties with.

Obviously, no one nominated me as a spokesperson, but that’s irrelevant when considering how broad the range of people Blake and his letter potentially offended. Either way I stand behind my sentiments whole-heartedly. It wasn’t the best piece I’ve ever written by any means and was a bit mean spirited, but considering the people he has wronged in the past and the ones that just despise the way he does things, I feel justified in it’s tone. I just said publicly what we’ve all been saying in dimly lit bars and smoke holes for a long time running.

- derek

]]> Comment on Tulsa is a drama by ian http://projectfreethought.org/2011/12/tulsa-i-love-you/#comment-57 ian Thu, 08 Dec 2011 04:01:05 +0000 http://projectfreethought.org/?p=294#comment-57 Derek, your pen may not be dipped in gold, but your dick is dipped in some mighty fine ink, am i right bro? Derek, your pen may not be dipped in gold, but your dick is dipped in some mighty fine ink, am i right bro?

]]> Comment on an open letter to blake ewing. by ian http://projectfreethought.org/2011/12/an-open-letter-to-blake-ewing-from/#comment-56 ian Thu, 08 Dec 2011 03:25:04 +0000 http://projectfreethought.org/?p=250#comment-56 @apollonia, or what ever kinda of name that is. Might as well be Greek to me. Sounds like you are just jealous of Steve's success. Just because an artist becomes successful with his craft doesn't mean he's any less of an artist. Sure, he may have not worked very hard to become what he is, he may not have the most "original" ideas, but no one else can pull off the pinstriped fedora, pink tie, too-tight suit, aligator shoe combo like he does. And by the way he is totally Tulsa's own Pop Arists. His work is totally centered around only the most culturally current and poignant subjects. "I <3 NY" is perhaps the most recognizable symbol of the early-mid 90's. My grandparents went to NYC once and they bought tons of shit with that on it. It's practically public domain, so he totally has the right to use it and make it his own. It takes real inspiration and a college educated knowledge of art history to take a completely mediocre mass-marketed image and tailor it to the local vernacular. I mean, it's not like it's as easy as just taking the smiley face t-shirt from the the 70's and putting a mustache on it...(wait a minute, that's a really good idea. scratch that.) You say Steve's work is tired, and that his personage is self-aggrandizing, but what you don't know is that he puts all of himself in everything that he does: it's not his fault that he happens to be a supremely uninteresting person, behind all that Hot Topic faux vintage attire. He only has that much to give, but he gives it all. He also went to TU, so he reserves the right to be "self-aggrandizing" as you put it. Where did you go to school? TCC? And ok, i will admit that he does surround himself with underfed coked out "art chicks," but better that then the fugly ass bitch that i'm sure you are! Woot! Woot! Hatchet Family 4 Life! @apollonia, or what ever kinda of name that is. Might as well be Greek to me. Sounds like you are just jealous of Steve’s success. Just because an artist becomes successful with his craft doesn’t mean he’s any less of an artist. Sure, he may have not worked very hard to become what he is, he may not have the most “original” ideas, but no one else can pull off the pinstriped fedora, pink tie, too-tight suit, aligator shoe combo like he does. And by the way he is totally Tulsa’s own Pop Arists. His work is totally centered around only the most culturally current and poignant subjects.
“I <3 NY" is perhaps the most recognizable symbol of the early-mid 90's. My grandparents went to NYC once and they bought tons of shit with that on it. It's practically public domain, so he totally has the right to use it and make it his own. It takes real inspiration and a college educated knowledge of art history to take a completely mediocre mass-marketed image and tailor it to the local vernacular. I mean, it's not like it's as easy as just taking the smiley face t-shirt from the the 70's and putting a mustache on it…(wait a minute, that's a really good idea. scratch that.) You say Steve's work is tired, and that his personage is self-aggrandizing, but what you don't know is that he puts all of himself in everything that he does: it's not his fault that he happens to be a supremely uninteresting person, behind all that Hot Topic faux vintage attire. He only has that much to give, but he gives it all. He also went to TU, so he reserves the right to be "self-aggrandizing" as you put it. Where did you go to school? TCC? And ok, i will admit that he does surround himself with underfed coked out "art chicks," but better that then the fugly ass bitch that i'm sure you are! Woot! Woot! Hatchet Family 4 Life!

]]> Comment on an open letter to blake ewing. by K Bush http://projectfreethought.org/2011/12/an-open-letter-to-blake-ewing-from/#comment-55 K Bush Thu, 08 Dec 2011 03:21:54 +0000 http://projectfreethought.org/?p=250#comment-55 Some valid points… really fucking mean… made me happy. Some valid points… really fucking mean… made me happy.

]]> Comment on an open letter to blake ewing. by Sam http://projectfreethought.org/2011/12/an-open-letter-to-blake-ewing-from/#comment-54 Sam Thu, 08 Dec 2011 03:01:56 +0000 http://projectfreethought.org/?p=250#comment-54 But he is an ass!!! But he is an ass!!!

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